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Major Airlines being urged to consider child free flights

Kayte Platts Kayte Platts
Wednesday 2 February 2011

A recent UK survey indicates that British Airways, Virgin Atlantic and Emirates are being urged to consider child-free zones and even child-free flights because three quarters of business passengers found children on planes "irritating."

baby-onplane2.jpgBusiness travel writer, Dave Richardson said "Introducing an adults-only service would work well on high-frequency routes allowing families to be accommodated on other services." 

Already, US Amtrak has a quiet car, no loud talking or cell-phone gabbling, on many of their trains. With airlines keen to keep lucrative business and first-class travellers happy, the introduction of 'quiet cabins' on planes may not be far away.

The survey saw 1,000 business class travellers questioned about pet hates on flights ahead of the Business Travel and Meetings trade show, which takes place in London next week.

Frank Barrett, The Mail on Sunday's travel editor said the controversial idea would be unethical: "I'm always amused to see children in business class. What sort of business can these children be travelling on? What work does a six-month old baby have to do in New York?".

He went onto say, "However, much as I hate being kept awake by a grizzling child, I think that passenger apartheid might be a dangerous step. Where would it end? Banning fat people, roping off anyone with smelly breath? We'll just have to grin and bear the presence of kiddies, I'm afraid."

There has been a muted response from UK airlines to the survey. A spokesperson for British Airways said: "We do our best to help families travelling have as smooth a journey as possible. We do a lot of research into what our customers want and are always looking into new ways of making their journey as comfortable and enjoyable as possible."

Virgin Atlantic said it had 'no plans' to introduce areas specifically for adults.'

Charlie Mason
Charlie Mason, Wandsworth
2 February 2011, 03:51PM

I think this could instigate a huge argument. Children have rights too, what are you supposed to do, stick a gobstopper in the mouth for the duration of the flight? They have as much right to be in Business and First Class as adults have!

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Sn1per
Sn1per, UK
3 February 2011, 10:53PM

I don't see an argument - if you have kids you can't get on a quiet flight, just take an ordinary flight instead. You wouldn't make a noisy phone call in a quiet train carriage would you? Oh wait, yes you would wouldn't you.

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Mark
Mark, Berks
6 February 2011, 02:29AM

I'm concerned about the character of people who don't like children.

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Poppy
Poppy, London
7 February 2011, 01:34PM

As a latecomer to parenthood I was a lone business traveller for many years passenger and have to say that I was very frustrated if I was sat next to a crying baby/child. However obviously now I have a child of my own my views are very different. I expect that most customers that would find child-free zones perfect are the ones without children, and generally selfish adults!

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Julia
Julia, Newton Abbott
7 February 2011, 02:10PM

What is this world coming too? I can't believe that the society we live in cannot tolerate children. Maybe all women should be sterilised at birth.

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Josie
Josie, Maldon
8 February 2011, 10:20AM

In theory this all sounds like quite a sensible plan, but at what lengths are travel companies prepared to go to in order to please business travellers! I am a single parent and travelling to see my family abroad is a nightmare, my children are generally well behaved but obviously they have their moments. How do you think I as a parent feel when I get toffee nosed business travellers looking down on me because my child may dare to speak?

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Sandra Olson
Sandra Olson, Feltham
8 February 2011, 02:08PM

With two children of my own and adorable as they are there is no worse than the sound a child or baby crying. For a parent it is heart breaking and embarrassing but for almost anyone else it is very difficult to bare. It is apparently one of the few noises our bodies are programmed not to tune out. However that said you start barring children from certain flights the silliness will only follow. The best the airlines can do is supply a good pair of earplugs!

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Barbara
Barbara, Suffolk
10 February 2011, 12:01PM

I agree with Sandra, it can be embarrassing as a parent to have to deal with the disapproving looks from others, but where do you draw the line? Maybe there should be adult only flights, but as long as it does not affect the amount of flights available to us long suffering parents!!!

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Diane
Diane, Sunderland
10 February 2011, 12:40PM

The person behind this idea must surely be a male who has no children and no young relatives or if he does then obviously has never experienced travelling abroad with them!

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Lily Davis
Lily Davis, Davenport
10 February 2011, 11:51PM

I think it is just luck of the draw, sometimes you will get a perfect flight with plenty of kids on and get a good nights sleep and others you could be squished next to a child screaming the whole 9 hours! I understand the anguish but I think it is just one of those things you complain about but deal with.

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Malcolm LLoyd
Malcolm LLoyd, Somerset
13 February 2011, 07:58PM

I reckon it is a good idea for business flights to key destinations (eg New York) but it is bound to cause resentment.
Before I retired, I used to use the London to New York and then return on the red eye. A few times, I used Concorde and always on business. Children would have been (and I suppose were) a pain on those flights but I guess you just take it as it comes.
I cannot see much expansion in business travel. We were just starting to make increasing use of video conferencing when I left and I expect that will continue to grow. It is always interesting to watch two teams of corporate lawyers at different ends of a video conference.

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Racheal
Racheal, Pratts Bottom
15 February 2011, 11:30AM

Business is business but life is life and children have rights. As a parent I find this sort of discussion so frustrating, it is not easy travelling with children and I already have to put up with disapproving looks from stuck up business travellers if my child so much as sneezes, get a life you pompous people.

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Raymond
Raymond, London
17 February 2011, 12:11PM

I am a business traveller and I think a child free flight would be heaven. I pay to travel business class and expect a high level of service; do I want noisy children distracting me when I am working on board? Simple answer NO!

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Nicholas Bartman
Nicholas Bartman, Torquay, Devon
17 February 2011, 04:28PM

I too like this idea of a child free environment. As a business traveller too there is nothing more distracting, and it is a time when I can really knuckle down and get some real work done.

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Brooke
Brooke, Ash
21 February 2011, 05:12PM

I find it distressing to read some of the comments regarding this article. I can understand that business class is generally for business travellers however saying that children may not be allowed on some flights is surely discrimination.

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Maureen
Maureen, Leatherhead
7 March 2011, 11:53AM

I can see both arguments, but surely if you pay to travel business class then you are a business traveller, therefore I would not expect children to be travelling. On the other hand reading some of the above, I find it totally unacceptable that children seem to be receiving such negative comments. Lets remember we were all children once, even you pompous arrogant business travellers.

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Fran
Fran, London
21 March 2011, 01:51PM

Being a regular business traveller I have to say that a child free flight would be perfect. Travelling is a major part of my life and this time has to be utilised working therefore I do not want the disruption of children around me.

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effas
effas
12 April 2011, 10:41PM

Hello,
I have hyperacusis and cannot tolerate the noise of boarding or unboarding an airplane unless it is via an air bridge.
I have spoken to airlines and airplain operators but have yet to find a way to gaurantee an aibridge for arrival and departure for outward and return flights.
Is there a way I can do this?
Thankyou

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