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Ryanair -Vertical Seating

.. and pay-as-you-go loos

Kayte Platts Kayte Platts
Friday 2 July 2010

Can it be true that Ryanair are about introduce ‘Vertical Seating’ on flights as of next year?

They are in the process of checking out the safety implications. The design reminds me almost of the contraption used to retain ‘Hannibal Lector’ in the Silence of the Lambs. Although they only intend to charge £4.00 per seat and the revenue is to be gained by ‘charging’ £1.00 to go to the loo that in itself could be quite costly for some passengers as some may visit the loo’s more often than others.vertical_seating.jpg

What next I ask myself, are they going to start charging us for oxygen?

Ryanair already makes you feel as if you are entering a ‘cattle market’ when you board, and although it works for a good many people on a budget, I feel charging to go to the loo really is a step too far, it has far reaching implications for people travelling with children, the disabled passenger and the elderly, it’s a hard enough job travelling on a aircraft anyway for the above without adding more stress to the experience.

It would seem that passenger comfort is indeed a thing of the past, and looking for ways of gaining as much profit as one can at the expense of the passenger is the way things are moving forward.

John Wells
John Wells, Ipswich
2 July 2010, 03:39PM
I find this an interesting innovation from Ryanair. As long as the vertical seats are reasonably comfortable I can see the £4 seat charge being quite popular with passengers on a budget.
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Ben Philips
Ben Philips, London
2 July 2010, 05:03PM
The vertical seats do not look comfortable at all; The 'Hannibal Lecter' comparison is spot on!

Ryanair will certainly get plenty of press coverage with this. A publicity stunt or a genuine space/economy saving invention?
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Andrew Stone
Andrew Stone
6 July 2010, 04:47PM
When looking at these vertical seats, 'human cattle' springs to mind. A novel idea from Ryanair but project could be huge waste of money, as they are unlikely to get past the stringent safety tests.
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William Jones
William Jones
12 July 2010, 11:05AM
You can see their point, can't you? If you can stand in a bus, then why not a plane. However, from the diagram above, I can't see how they would save much space, and accomodate more passengers.

As an ex-pilot, I am well aware of the dangers of standing up in a flying aircraft, but if the restraints [seat-belts] were properly designed, then in safety terms, you would be no worse off in a crash.
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Karen H
Karen H
12 July 2010, 11:56AM
Airlines certainly need to find effective ways of reducing the cost of flying for consumers, if it means vertical seats on flights, so be it. I do not agree with the toilet charge though, it's not the £1 per use that bothers me, just the principle.
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Liam Stout
Liam Stout, Norwich
13 July 2010, 05:11PM
I am interested to know the reasons why rival airlines have not already invested in a similar invention. Is it because vertical seating has already been rejected on technical grounds? Or do they believe it to be a non-profitable solution?
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Glen
Glen, Portsmouth
14 July 2010, 01:49PM
This could substantially increase fuel costs and carbon emissions for Ryanair, making their planes heavier by cramming in more passengers in heavily reinforced upright seats. That being said, charging next to nothing for these seats is bound to attract many travellers on a budget.
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KerryHolland
KerryHolland, United Kingdom
20 July 2010, 10:48AM
Could this just be a 'publicity' stunt, and a way of 'grabbing the headlines', I for one cannot imagine travelling like this on an aircraft, it looks completely uncivialised. Where will this end?
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Julie
Julie, Potters Bar
20 July 2010, 01:18PM
I think this time Ryanair have really lost the plot. When looking at the vertical seats I can't believe that it would be a safe way to travel and I would definatley want to travel like that no matter how cheap it was!
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Teresa
Teresa, Maidstone
20 July 2010, 04:56PM
I would be very concerned at letting a child travel like this, I think they would find it a very frightening experience in general, I expect there would be parents out there that would see it as a way of cheap travel and wouldn't take into account what their children's feelings were to this.
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Alice Thompson
Alice Thompson, Sussex
20 July 2010, 04:58PM
Cannot believe they will be charging to go to the loo....what if you have travel sickness, or worse!! The idea of trying to find a £1 coin every time is ridiculous.

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Martin
Martin, Stevenage
23 July 2010, 01:53PM
Ryanair’s pay for toilet system could be extremely clumsy. There will be echoes of 'have you got any change air hostess?' and 'the coin slot is jammed, what now!?' I cannot really see this one working.
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Linda
Linda, Southampton
29 July 2010, 03:37PM
Yes, the idea of running out of change is a scary one! Something would go wrong with this idea and tempers would be short I would imagine!
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Samantha Jarvis
Samantha Jarvis, Nottingham
11 August 2010, 12:08PM
I hate Ryan Air full stop. You are treated so badly from start to finish, ok, it is a no frills service but the idea of charging to go to the loo is ridiculous and impractical and spells disaster for all concerned. It makes me so angry.
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